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    UK will introduce new ID regulations for transgender people.

    Link to the story: Daily Mail: Transgenders and ID

    'Transgender' individuals forced to buy two ID cards - one for each sex

    By James Slack
    Last updated at 11:08 AM on 22nd November 2008


    People who are undergoing a sex change will be allowed two cards - one in each gender. But they will also be forced to pay twice - landing them with a £60 bill.

    It has decided they will have to hold a card in their current sex, which can be used for travel in the EU.

    But they will also be able to apply for a card €“ with corresponding picture €“ in the name and sex they are undergoing treatment to become.

    In other words, they will dress and appear as they will once the sex change is complete.

    Extra costs will also apply to women who want to change their names when they marry will face a £100 ID card 'tax'.

    They will be duty bound to update their entry on the new ID cards database, and hand over £30 if they want a card with their husband's surname.


    Home Secretary Jacqui Smith unveiling the new UK ID card in September - people will be required to notify the National Identity Register of personal data changes

    Coupled with the existing £72 charge for a new passport, it will mean paying £102.

    Refusing to update the ID database of any change in circumstance  -  including a new address  -  will carry a fine starting at £125 and rising to a maximum of £1,000.

    Fines, which can be issued by post, email or fax, will also apply if cardholders fail to report lost or stolen cards.

    They will also have to pay £30 for a new card and go to a special centre to hand over their biometric details once again or have them checked.

    The new charges and penalties emerged in a Home Office consultation document outlining draft legislation on how the hugely-controversial £5billion ID card scheme will work.

    Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the Tax Payers' Alliance, said last night: 'It is unfair to effectively fine someone for getting married or forgetting to notify an official that they have moved house.

    'ID cards are going to be extremely invasive and expensive, a double blow to ordinary people which we can ill afford.

    'Given the Government's appalling record on IT projects, there is a strong chance people could be fined due to errors in the database.'

    Phil Booth, of the NO2ID privacy campaign, said: 'So the state "managing" your identity boils down to telling them everything there is to know about you, under threat  -  and coughing up time and again for the privilege.

    'This must be a wake-up call for everyone who bought the line that ID was just a simple card.'

    From 2011 or 2012, passports and ID cards will become interlinked.

    Anybody applying for a passport will automatically have their details, including a scan of all ten fingerprints and their face, entered on the National Identity Register.
    id card

    Critics say the £30 cost of the ID card is only fixed to 2010 and could subsequently increase

    The combined charge will be £102  -  £72 for a passport and £30 for an ID card, although critics say there is still scope for this to increase.

    If any of their personal information subsequently changes, they must notify officials immediately. Details which must be kept up to date include name, address and nationality.

    Critics say the scheme will be hugely bureaucratic and inconvenient.

    The consultation document says fines are 'not intended to be punitive or revenue raising'. But officials say penalties are necessary to ensure the information on the database remains current.

    Fines will normally be imposed only on those actively refusing to have their data updated. They double with each new offence, to a maximum of £1,000, although people can appeal.

    Providing false information, tampering with the register, giving out people's data without authorisation and holding false ID documents will all be criminal offences.

    Officials have also tried to tackle the issue of how to record the addresses of homeless people and gipsies.
    Des Browne



    Former minister Des Browne holding a biometric identification card

    Homeless people wanting ID cards may be able to give their address as a bench, bus stop or park where they are often found.

    The legislation is likely to come before Parliament in the new year in time for its implementation-next autumn. Airport workers at Manchester and London City Airport will be issued with the first cards.

    Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve said: 'At a time of economic hardship, the public will be dismayed that the Government plans to fine innocent people for inaccuracies on the Government's own database.

    'The Home Secretary has confirmed the worst element of the scheme  -  a single, mammoth and highly vulnerable database exposing masses of our personal details to criminal hackers.

    'Worse still, she has magnified the scope for fraud by allowing spot fines to be issued by email.

    'This scheme is truly the worst of all worlds  -  expensive, intrusive and unworkable.'

    An Identity and Passport Service spokesman said: €˜Whenever someone changes their name they will need to update and replace their identity card. There would be a charge for this just as there is when someone replaces their passport now.€™

    The draft secondary legislation is likely to come before Parliament in the new year in time for its implementation in autumn next year.

    Identity cards for foreign nationals will be issued from next week.

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  • #2
    Yes... I noticed that rather odd and somewhat bizarre story recently.

    We are years away from seeing this ID scam in the UK.

    It's a bit like the poll tax - you pluck too many feathers and the duck will eventually bite you back!

    This insane and reckless government has loads of these great ideas! They seem to be trying there very very hardest to turn the UK into a third world Muslim country where we have to beg for justice and die for want of food and warmth.

    No other country in the world has seen such an economic and social freefall as the UK. It's amazing sitting outside it watching it happen.

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    • #3
      Not amazing. Bloody tragic!

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      • #4
        Assuming this scheme ever gets off the ground which assumes the re-election of the Labour Government I give it two weeks before you can buy moody ID in your local boozer!

        Dear old continues its move towards a banana republic with anti terrorist officers raiding parliament because the Home Secretary went pre-menstrual and the entire country in financial collapse.

        We are treated to assorted ministers apologising for the banks and saying how we have to look after them becuse we "need" them. Well we needed coal too but it didn't stop the government of the day destroying a whole industry and the communities that went with it because it suited them.

        I'd just like one official spokesman to announce that the cause of this crisis is a bunch of lying treacherous greedy fuckweasels who were aided and abetted by a government who got rid of every form of financial control.   Rant over!
        You, you and you hold fire - everyone else come with me - attributed to US Marine Recruiting Sargent WW2.

        You, you and you cum on me - everyone else hold fire - attributed to Porn Actor/Director Alexandra in 1992

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        • #5
          The Home Secretary has confirmed the worst element of the scheme  -  a single, mammoth and highly vulnerable database exposing masses of our personal details to criminal hackers.

          'Worse still, she has magnified the scope for fraud by allowing spot fines to be issued by email.

          'This scheme is truly the worst of all worlds  -  expensive, intrusive and unworkable
          Anything that involves a British government and IT in the same sentence fills me with dread!

          About 15 years ago a green paper was sent out about changing the registration laws for births, marriages and deaths. As a geneaologist I took note.

          Several of the geneaologist organisations in the UK came up with a brilliants set of proposals that would have made it very difficult to forge an identity and avoided any issue of identity cards.

          The then government ignored everything that was suggested and implemented their own totally flawed plan.
          Now I cannot get the marriage certificate of my own parents without all sorts of hassle.
          But any terrorist can still get a false birth certificate and hence a UK passport without any particular problem!      

          Like I have said before  -  when it comes to anything to do with IT  -  UK governments have invariably managed to prove they are all a bunch of incompetant fuckwits!      

          RR.
          Pedants rule, OK. Or more precisely, exhibit certain of the conventional trappings of leadership.

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          • #6
            Its really scary what the world leader governments come up with to "improve" life in their home countries
            You Live and You Learn -- Hopefully!

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            • #7
              this country must suffer at the hands of this labour government a while longer yet,but if they are re elected then be sure the country will suffer more damage to its society and economy only this time they will take it to limits that will be beyond repair.few people i speak to are proud to be british few are happy and more feel increasingly unwellcome in their own country,perhaps we should all give up our british passports and re enter the country as asylum seekers.
              robbo

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