LB sites: AsianTS vs LB69?

[Guest]

Hello Batman

Indeed back to the topic. Yes we can argue about models, photo's etc. Asiants has a far larger and more professional approach imo. I think stogie has a better team than lb69. More professional in many ways.
On the other hand compare both forums and I disagree it is not about apples and pears:Both have the same aim and work in similar areas. So far no other site has topped asiants and there are many reasons why. One is very obvious:there is one major difference between lb69 and asiants. On lb69 I read many posts by certain members which show to me only one thing: total lack of respect towards lb's or friends by certain members. Ony I me mine or look at me. Speaking of wankers in real life , there you have a field of them.Compare their trip reports( including your own report) to that of billy69 or Robin. Even you Batman must see the difference or are you really another meatmachine like that god from the uk. Remember even in the p4p scene you work with humans. ( Not I don't owe them or save them/ B..s)
If superheroes, guroes and warriors would get that message that would make my day. Because they seem to forget in their behaviour to workers in the p4p scene that there is a difference between the internet and real life. It has nothing to do with wanking. It is a matter of decency.Even a specialist like laptop should know that or be able to understand it one day. His opinion I respect but he falls through with his insults. Simply pathetic when a person needs that . The same goes for you but yesterday we did a batdance together and I think it was fun.
So you can insult me, ignore me, not discuss it or anything else. I won't change my point of view regarding the thread lb69vs asiants. Only this time on a far more serious level. As long as there are guroes , heroes etc who think they can get away with their view I keep giving them my view.

[seanbeag7]

one of these day's pal you are going to insult someone here and then we will have the pleasure of banning you forever from this forum too.

there is one main difference in these two forum's and that is respect, lb69 has shown no respect to bm's who try to make a suggestion on how to change that forum for the better, all you get i put down, and told shut up or fucking walk. at least in here if the suggestion is a good and proper one, you get praised by stogie.

and the other big thing that this forum has above all others is a chat-room where bm's go and chat and find out things about each other, it's a good way in showing respect to other members.

[Guest]

Hello Seanbag


Did I insult you? No not that I can remember and I won't.There is no reason to do that. Keep talking like this and you burn your own fingers. The problem with you is that your narrow view makes you post threads like this. I cannot help that. If you get angry by my posts learn to control that anger. I don't take your silly remarks serious or slagg back. No I'm not a time waster or a person who kicks on that.
I'm always open for any fair discussion. So far none of the shouting part of this forum has got me by the balls.
A big difference between asiants and lb69.On lb69 I would have been deleted many times. Here they gave space to this. I'm afraid we are drifting apart so again back to the topic.
Now this thread is about lb69vsasiants. And not turpin vs shouters. If you want that feel free to open a new thread. I won't because I know I'm a nobody and don't even seek for the 15 minutes of fame that Mr Warhol predicted for every person. I'm happy with my life and don't need fame. Why don't you try the same

[stogie bear]

Ladyboy69 is a website which has a forum for the sole use of their members and supporters.

It's crazy to compare this forum with theirs.

Here we promote a lot of sites and have a larger scope. On LB69 they tend to stick with their own site.

The LB69 forum has a  very large following and a great bunch of supporters who visit many sites and forums.

We are just one forum who supports both LB69 AND asianTS.com AND many other sites too.
Let's quit the bitching wars and get on with the ladyboy fun!

I agree with RR... let's be cool. The internet is big enough for all of us.

[koykaeng]

(stogie bear @ Aug. 19 2008,20:29) Let's quit the bitching wars and get on with the ladyboy fun!

My sentiments exactly.

More importantly, I need to decide which bar in Pattaya to visit this evening.

Cheers
Koykaeng

[stogie bear]

Go to Stringfellows and say Happy Birthday to TT Chang for me!

[seanbeag7]

ben you did not insult me and i thank you for that, the reason i made the first part of my post was the way you insult others who i consider friends here and i do not like that.

but as stogie said, lets not bitch about it, and i won't trouble you anymore.

[stogie bear]

I have moderated out a lot of the "Quotes", etc.

It's an annoyance for many members so let's please stick to the rules and try not to keep reposting stuff.

By the way - the thread is about the AsianTS.com website and the LB69 website and NOT the forums. Although as LB69 does have a forum and asianTS is closely linked to this forum it would be easy for the lines to be blurred over this.

Thanks,

Stogie

[pacman]

(benturpin @ Aug. 19 2008,15:47) The problem is that the skillfull poet/moderator kliome banned me forever.

There is the reason right there why I prefer this forum to all others - it allows everyone to have their say.

Whatever anyone thinks of benturpin, I don't care, I enjoy hearing from anyone voicing their opinion & the fact that Ben may annoy only makes his posts more interesting.

What a boring place it would be if every poster had to mimic the last with tales of bravado.

Ben may be different, he may not please everyone, but he is an individual who writes with passion in his own unique style.

One thing though Ben, don't get any ideas that you have any right to freedom of speech on a privately owned website.

If you start expecting justice, you may get more than you bargained for...        

[seanbeag7]

ben, thanks for your pm, i just won't reply to it until you meet me in the chat-room and i get to ask the twenty normal questions

e.g where you from,etc.....

and i agree with pacman, especially his last 2 lines, i already learned what the meaning of that meant.

thanks again

sean

[kliome]

Just for your informtaion.

It's very very rare that someone is banned from LB69. In all my time I've only banned one person from the site (koetjeboe aka benturpin). Which was also discussed with others before admin went ahead with the ban (unanimous decision). I can't remember anyone else being banned, and if so I didn't have a hand in it.

I'm not really interested in discussing the reasons why this person was banned, as, despite the nature of his post, it was more in response to Private Messages sent (which for the person concerned is probably best left private).

I think a debate over freedom of speech is a much bigger issue (worthy of it's own thread - rather than off topic comments) but in terms of deleting posts, sometimes mistakes are made, but generally all of these forums follow the same common sense, and I suspect very very few people can come forward and say they've been treated unfairly (without a hidden agenda OR personal vendetta).

LB69 Vs ATS
I'd be happy with a subscription to either site, both do what they say on the tin, both have a large variety and selection of models (pics and vids) and some models even appear on both. The photography is of a good standard on both, and both now have a large database and are updated regularly and consistently. I doubt many people complain.

From what I've seen, a lot of people tend to get hooked in by one particular model, so in my opinion it's all about individual taste and hard to really split the two or diagnose which site would suit whom. Anyone who is unsure which one to subscribe too should raid the penny jar and have a month on both.

In terms of the forums, they both serve the same function, and a lot of guys read/use both. A lot comes down to clicking with one or more of the members early on. I don't have time to look and post on more than one forum, but I've spent most of my time on LB69 because the first few guys I met all posted there, and as simple as that, the forum becomes more than a layout or selection of topics or trip reports. Sadly there are occasions were people get hooked on a forum for the opposite reason, but such is the internet.

[PigDogg]

Re forums, many guys start posting on whichever one they find first. For me it was the now defunct Questionable Girls Yahoo Group. Amazing how big the group got given that the owner had no commercial agenda as far as I know.

Nowadays there is more interaction than ever between guys from the different forums because the bars are more social.

Go back to just two years ago in January '07 and their was no special venue in Pattaya to meet up before a hunt. Then all of sudden came along 131, LaBamba, and now EZY Bar, all bars where one drinks and hangs out.

Likewise go back to just October '06 and there was no Guess Bar in Bangkok. You could pre-arrange a meet at Big Dog's or Lucky Luke's and then go on to a gogo.

[stogie bear]

There's no right way to do a forum. Everyone of them has it's own personality.

Some work and some don't. Some have a lot of posters and some have a lot of 'lurkers.'

My only beef with LB69 is the white on black text. It's a good style but after a few minutes I get a headache from it. Apparently though, you can change the 'skin' and it'll look different.

I like the trip reports section over there. Definately an 'on the ground' account of what people get up to in Thailand especially Pattaya!

[Guest]

Deleted - it's unecessary to quote the entire post every time.

RR.

Hello Kliome

Finally a reaction from your side. And how on another forum. Yes I was banned from lb69. It might be the only time when you were moderator. People may know too that the famous balou member got banned too. Why although he never met Franck he was able to see through while others supported mr 131. Later when Franck screwed everyone , yes then he was right. But before that he was banned. So Mr Kliome  tell people the whole story. When a person gets banned from another forum many good forums inform the person involved too. Explaining why.This is the first time I read your reasons. I think it is not completely true. I got banned after my last thread: what does koetjeboe really wants. That post was on lb69 for about 5 minutes. It was not an insulting post but a very critical post about behaviour. In that post any member could read why I did a batdance with some members. Parts of it I used in here. A censorship , a ban ? No dear Kliome nothing happened. Yes some members got a pm but be honest how did they react on your forum. I also told you I don't mind unless these guroes cross a legal line. One of the pm you got from me Mr Kliome told you that exactly. What did I see before to refresh your memory: one post about should we ignore koetjeboe by mr laptop. He got a decent answer from me and no insults. After that answer his post fell through. Then a few weeks before a post  on the lb69 model section started by the famous anthony70 with a section koetjeboe model. What did I see childish comments, an old man in ladies underwear and Mr laptop and anthony imagine what a wanker and a looser I was. This post stood there for several days ( kliome you were sleeping then??) and only when I started taking Anthony's teeth out and slagging laptop and batfly you reacted. Because the posts were harmless by its content and it was fun. But I know from another wanker who claims to be anthony's friend that he felt provoked and upset. So a perfect example of a person that couldn't see the line between the internet and the real world. Any sane person that posts like that knows he can get an equal amount of the same back. If he cannot stand that he should see a doctor and leave the internet. His second problem was that he is  a person with no respect to any other person ( thai or farang)whatsoever. These were the two key messages ( no respect and losing reality)in my final post that you deleted after 5 minutes. Not that I'm angry or hurt by that. It only showed me that a poet and a moderator are worlds apart.
Now I come to the pm's. Mr kliome I got three disturbing pm's from another member called trousersnake. Legally it was on the brink of stalking or a treat . Did I care about that?No because out of his english I suspected a nutcase or a member with another identity on your forum.
Yes I did send some of your other members a pm. giving them a piece of their own. Maybe to direct or to confronting  but out of respect I never posted trash like that on the open. And never any treats or personal information. My guess is that they are you friends and by banning me you forgot your independant role as moderator.  But look at them. Are they saints? No they are sick because they lost reality. Very sad if that happens to a person. One of them was so crazy he wanted to "visit "me when he stayed in my country.Telling me exactly what he felt of me. Two legal advices to his forumbuddy cyp73 and no word of it anymore. Or treatening to inform my parents about  thai lb's. Well for your information they already know and don't care. So sorry for the blonde stud that cheap trick failed too. But just  examples Mr Kliome . But no action within 5 minutes , no only after I started to talk back. Far more fetching than a pm to a superhero imo. And why because on this forum it is possible to say your say ( within certain boundaries), on your forum too many deletes. And when you should act no reaction or too late.Somewhere your policy doesn't work and stogies policy does
My only advice to any sane person would be: look a little closer at the behaviour of some these superheroes including you Mr Kliome ( yes you are not the virgin mary) by reading their reports and looking at their photos. Ask yourself do I want to behave like that??. Also for me it is clear why so many lb's told me in Pattaya that there was some trash out there. Not that all lb's are saints but mr kliome before you want to play the sophisticated wise guru think twice and dust your own mirror. Clean-up time dear Kliome. My posts might look disturbing or annoying but with purpose to get you in the open and give you my point view on respect and compassion. Because you need a far greater lesson than I. I've seen you and some others in action and to be honest disgusting to me. Like some meatmachines on the run. A total communication breakdown. No matter how many times all the laptops of this world call me a troll or demand I should be banned or ignored I keep posting my view.
I think there are many decent members on this and even on your forum. I fear some inexperienced might get carried away by trash that thinks that this behaviour is the way to do it in LOS. Try to behave like the superheroes for 15 minutes in a regular job. You end up on the street and you get a kick in the ass by your boss. (But I can tell you these superheroes in their native town are the greatest asslickers in the world and wouldn't dare to do that).   People who take my slagging posts serious will always miss my point. It had a purpose not to trash or insult them  but to open their eyes in their behaviour towards lb's and friends. Showing them how cheap and easy that is and that it leads to nothing but only hurting others. Sometimes that needs a little confrontation.
Having said that I also for the last time show the difference between your forum and asiants. I hope everyone gets it now.Next time I be cool

Have a nice day Mr Kliome

[pacman]

     friendship has its limits...      

Please try a little spacing between your sentences, keep your paragraphs smaller, in other words, allow enough room around this mass of type so I don't die of eyestrain trying to read it.

Perhaps it may pay not to be so reactive to any negative post, & if you feel compelled to challenge another BM, I assure you 50 words will do the job far better than 1000, most of which won't be read.

Otherwise keep writing, it seems to be a hobby of yours.      

Oh, one last word, take note of our webmaster when he requests you keep the quotes to a minimum, the first line will be sufficient.