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  • #16
    Ziggystardust,

    I am quite surprised at your post,

    Yes westerners do bring in cash, & lots of it to the LOS, but it does not get a fair distribution, & yes I have been to Issan, it broke my heart, & you can believe that, take it or leave it, thats why I never went back!! There are many unfair things in the LOS. I also understand that the Thais hide a great deal from us, like the sex industry that caters for the locals is larger than ours, & also there is a drink problem amoungst the locals.
        We will have to agree to disagree on the "polution" the west brings in, & agree on the larger lout question, I have absolutely no time for these idiots, I saw loads of them on my last trip. Even Mamasans & bar owners I have known for years have said to me the quality of the westerner coming to the LOS is going down rapidly!! The package tour horde do not put money out into the community in the same way the sex tourist does. The horde & probably the larger louts just book whats in the brochure. That means many other airlines rather than TG & also major chain hotels do not belong to the Thais except in name, they are coperations owned by share holders & the idle rich, they don't live in Issan. The horde don't bar fine or give the GG's & LB's many tips & certainly don't buy many drinks, I watch them on my trips as they are a never ending source of amusement. Backpackers are even worse   !!!

    Sex tourists tend not to stay in package tour chain hotels, as they will not be particually welcome, they also buy more drinks for the GG's / LB's & are more likely to bar fine & tip, a % of that tip will find its way back to the family in Issan or another province & not the coperate or share holders pocket.

    With so much travel i see the polution of the west all the time, yes they bring the money in, but invarably it artificially jacks up the price. Pattaya used to be a quiet ish fishing village then along came the GI's on R&R from Vietnam, followed by sex tourists, & oil terminal workers, the locals have left they can't afford it anymore. The money flows in & helps in some ways but not to tho's that desperately need it !!
    Robin

    You pays your money & takes your chance. This isn't a rehearsal do it now, it's no good looking back when it's a lover & wishing.... ITS TOO LATE.

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    • #17
      I took your advice and left it, I did get a train into london but decided to buy tranny DVD to wank over (when i got home). Much money saved.
      Definatley gona buy a digital camera now for my trip to LOS.

      ONLY 50 DAYS TO GO.
      Pussy Stinks

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      • #18
        Originally posted by (SQUIRLY @ Jan. 11 2006,15:26)
        I took your advice and left it, I did get a train into london but decided to buy tranny DVD to wank over (when i got home). Much money saved.
        Definatley gona buy a digital camera now for my trip to LOS.

        ONLY 50 DAYS TO GO.
        Make sure to get one with a storage chip like Billy's. His holds about a thousand pics
        randyman
        ain't life grand

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        • #19
          Originally posted by (Stewart @ Jan. 08 2006,12:35)
          Originally posted by
          I don't go to Thailand for just the sex but for the whole mind-boggling Thai experience that will leave you an ever lasting better state of mind€¦€¦ it really does cure all your mental problems!
           


          SAME SAME  

          Dave...
          Bullshit!!!

          You are telling me that if there were no lb's and gogo bars, you would still go??  
          Can I get back to you on that one?
          Your got yer Mother in a whirl
          Shes not sure if your a Boy or a Girl

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          • #20
            Originally posted by (Bam @ Jan. 08 2006,07:14)
            I don't go to Thailand for just the sex but for the whole mind-boggling Thai experience that will leave you an ever lasting better state of mind€¦€¦ it really does cure all your mental problems!
            It is another planet. They have a "logic" all their own. One of my favorites, of course, is an obvious one.

            1. Men are uncomplicated creatures.

            2. If you want a man to do something, then make him happy, not freaking GD miserable.

            3. This can be done by just being nice, sweet or smiling, giving him some sort of sex and or good food, etc.

            4. Bitching only makes men want to go to a land far far away...(like Thailand)...and stay there (like in Thailand)...away from YOU, American chick...(like in Thailand).

            5. American women don't "get it" and I fear never will.


            Yes, much of "Thai-think" IS upside down and backwards and borders on insane at times (perhaps not as extreme as in the PI), but as long as they have the above "think" down to a science, then all is well in the land of smiles.


            LOGOS

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            • #21
              Originally posted by (Stewart @ Jan. 08 2006,19:35)
              Originally posted by
              I don't go to Thailand for just the sex but for the whole mind-boggling Thai experience that will leave you an ever lasting better state of mind€¦€¦ it really does cure all your mental problems!
               


              SAME SAME  

              Dave...
              Bullshit!!!

              You are telling me that if there were no lb's and gogo bars, you would still go??  
              He didn't say that he didn't go for the sex, he said that he didn't go JUST for the sex.


              LOGOS

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              • #22
                Originally posted by
                uote (Stewart @ Jan. 08 2006,19:35)
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                I don't go to Thailand for just the sex but for the whole mind-boggling Thai experience that will leave you an ever lasting better state of mind€¦€¦ it really does cure all your mental problems!



                SAME SAME

                Dave...


                Bullshit!!!

                You are telling me that if there were no lb's and gogo bars, you would still go??

                He didn't say that he didn't go for the sex, he said that he didn't go JUST for the sex.


                LOGOS
                Yes I know, and the question still stands
                Mister Arse

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                • #23
                  Call it bullshit and me a liar but i went to thailand my first trip for reasons other than BG, LB and go gos. My first trip came about because we had a visiting research fellow from Thailand in my department. She told me so many great things about her country (plus I had always loved Thai food) that I decided to check it out. Ultimately I did a month rotation at "Chula" hospital in Radiology and fell in love with the people, culture, history and exchange rates (great on a resident's salary). So yeah I would still go back without the LB, BG, and go gos. Am I enjoying it more with the above three? Absolutely! But if Taksin were able to wipe it out overnight, I would still go back for the pure experience.
                  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
                  Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
                  Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
                  And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!
                  FORT MINOR-REMEMBER THE NAME

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                  • #24
                    Me too !! But then again my wife is Thai !! 30 yrs last November !! Lefty says she is too good for me, and I think he is spot-on !! We go to the thai temple in North Hollywood, get my "FIX" of thai music, food, monks and culture. Pom Rak Thai, Khrup !!!

                    DANNO
                    You no care me DIE !!!

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                    • #25
                      Agreed!Sometimes barfine a GG or LB & just take them to eat so they can get a break from all the nonsense!!!You'll be surprised how much respect&honest affection you get in return!&you are remembered for your kindness in all return trips.No sex,just feed em,treat em like ladies&give em time off to relax!!!Word gets around&you are better for it!

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                      • #26
                        My 1st trip to LOS was in July 2001 on Manchester United's far east football tour.
                        The eleven of us spent 6 nights in BKK and went to Riffifi's (go-go bar) in Patpong the first night.
                        I met a Girl there whom was deaf and dumb, looked fragile but was lovely looking and I did feel sorry for her.
                        I spent the 6 nights with her and in no way used her as some sex toy.
                        On my next 3 visits to LOS, I took her to Phuket for a holiday, to take her away from her life in BKK as a go-go girl to support her family.
                        We hardly ever had sex, my joy was seeing the happiness on her face, swimming in the pools in the Patong Merlin and Holiday Inn, getting her hair beaded on the beach and eating a decent meal etc.
                        My only real vice was my liking for 2-girl soapy massages for which I indulged in a couple of times
                        This ended just over 2 years ago due to her mother asking for money all the time. She was  knocking on the hotel room everyday at 9-00am with the clan.
                        I just got really pissed off with it , and it ended.
                        The girl still rings and texts me but I dont reply, it still pulls the heart strings sometimes.

                        Nearly 2 years ago, I started chatting with a ladyboy (who is NOT a bar girl, she hates that scene ) and on my last 3 visits to Thailand spent all my time with her, She is my love, and we talk everyday to each other and I have no intention of butterflying on her even though there are a lot of stunners about (e.g. my avator ) and the temptations are there for sure.
                        Like Martin Luther she had a dream, and without too much detail, I have helped make that dream come true for her. she will never forget me for the rest of her life for that.( her words not mine ) and if it ended tomorrow I would be gutted but hope she had a happy life.
                        THAT gives me more satisfaction than getting laid by all and sundry whilst im in LOS, but each to their own and I wont slag people off who do that. Everybody's happy at the end of the day, being the girls and the customers.

                        So my answer to your question Stewart is:-

                        No, I dont go to LOS for the sex, I just happen to love the country, culture and its people.

                        If you lived in England, you would understand why

                        Dave..

                        You can all stop crying now Put the hankies away
                        Your got yer Mother in a whirl
                        Shes not sure if your a Boy or a Girl

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                        • #27
                          Ohhhhh so envy her. Do it !! Do it !!! That's so nice to serious with lady boy. We don't want just sex. We want love too.

                          YaYeE

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                          • #28
                            can anyone send me thai porn movie.pls.thanks:0

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                            • #29
                              "If you lived in England, you would understand why.  
                              "

                              How true that statement is, & only those who have experienced the LOS several times & actually have to live in the UK & put up with western women there will understand that.

                              I have travelled far & wide & visited numerous countries where sex is virtually on "draft" for not too much money, yet I return to the LOS & the Philippines, its not JUST about sex!!  
                              Robin

                              You pays your money & takes your chance. This isn't a rehearsal do it now, it's no good looking back when it's a lover & wishing.... ITS TOO LATE.

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