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    MANASSAS, VA, Feb 13, 2009 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Continental Connection flight number 3407, operated by Colgan Air, was involved in an accident at about 10:20 p.m. Eastern time today while the aircraft, a Bombardier Dash 8 Q400, was operating between Newark Liberty International Airport and Buffalo Niagara International Airport. Colgan Air is in the process of collecting information and will schedule a preliminary news briefing to be held in Buffalo. Information concerning the time and location of the briefing will be distributed to the news media as soon as it is available.
     From The Airline web site


    CNN) -- A Continental Airlines plane crashed into a home near Buffalo, New York, late Thursday, killing 44 passengers and four crew members on board, according to New York State police.


    Continental Airlines Flight 3407 crashed into a house in suburban Buffalo, New York, late Thursday.

    Authorities also said a person on the ground was killed in the crash. It is not yet known if that person was in the home at the time of the crash.

    Continental Connection Flight 3407, operated by Colgan Air, was en route from Newark, New Jersey, when it went down, said Bill Peat with New York State Emergency Management in Albany.

    "At this time, the full resources of Colgan Air's accident response team are being mobilized and will be devoted to cooperating with all authorities responding to the accident and to contacting family members and providing assistance to them," a statement from the airline said.

    The plane crashed about 10:20 p.m., hitting a Clarence Center, New York, home. Residents near the crash site were evacuated from the area.

    The plane crashed about 10:20 p.m., hitting a Clarence Center, New York, home. Residents near the crash site were evacuated from the area.  Watch crash video from CNN affiliate WGRZ »

    Authorities said the plane went down near a local fire hall so firefighters were quick to respond to the accident scene.

    Area resident Keith Burtis said he was driving to the store about a mile from the crash site when he heard the plane go down. "It was a high-pitched sound," Burtis said. "It felt like a mini-earthquake."  Watch officials on the scene: 'This is not a rescue mission' »

    Shortly after the crash, Burtis said he saw a steady stream of fire trucks rush by him as smoke billowed into the sky.

    "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the crew, the passengers and our residents on Long Street," said Clarence Supervisor Scott Blylewski. Are you on the scene? Let us know at iReport

    "This is clearly a tragedy," said Dave Bissonette, the town's natural disaster services coordinator.

    A command post has been set up at the scene by the Erie County Medical Examiner's office and has investigators and doctors on the scene. Watch what iReporter captured on film

    Continental Airlines confirmed that the Bombardier Dash 8 Q400, a 74-seat turboprop, was operating between Newark Liberty International Airport and Buffalo. The crash occurred about seven miles from Buffalo Niagara International Airport.
    You Live and You Learn -- Hopefully!

  • #2
    This is the second crash I think with that airline in just the past few months.  The other was in Denver on the runway.  I also think they are in court currently in regards to the Concord crash.

    This make 2 plane crashes in NY with much different results.

    Makes you think if the US airline industry has jinxed itself.  They were just bragging about the safety of the industry and not having any fatal crashes in years and now several in a row.

    I wonder if the economy has anything to do with poorly maintained aircraft in an effort to save money or is it just bad luck?
    You Live and You Learn -- Hopefully!

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    • #3

      Yeah..it's almost worst than the records for Indonesian, Thai and S.American airlines. WTF!!
      Do only what you think it's good for you, and not what others think should be good for you!

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      • #4
        (SamplerDoc @ Feb. 13 2009,13:40) I wonder if the economy has anything to do with poorly maintained aircraft in an effort to save money or is it just bad luck?
        Expect more airplane disasters thanks to budget cutbacks & cost cutting forced on engineers by executives whose bonuses depend on the books being balanced.

        We are seeing it here in Australia with the dumping of 100's of Qantas engineers in favour of all maintenance being carried out in China.

        Thank god that great wrecker Geoff Dixon has taken his huge retirement payout & moved on. The new CEO now has the job of rebuilding consumer confidence & restoring morale to the staff.

        He's an Irishman, let's hope he's made of sterner stuff than the ones we see around here...    
        Despite the high cost of living, it continues to be popular.

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        • #5
          That is worrying stuff!
          i'm going where the sun keeps shining.................

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          • #6
            It's always easy to speculate on the nature of any air crash, which can often be premature and wrong.

            CTV Air Crash Story

            On preliminary analysis of the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder - the NTSB has said that the pilots saw "significant ice buildup" on the wings before the crash.

            Pilots saw 'significant ice' on wings before crash


            The National Transportation Safety Board has analyzed the flight data and cockpit recorders of doomed Continental Connection Flight 3407 and said that the pilots saw "significant ice buildup" on the wings before the crash.

            The NTSB says the landing gears were extended a minute before the commercial airliner crashed into a home in suburban Buffalo late Thursday and that data recorders showed the plane experienced "severe" pitch and roll seconds after the wings' flaps were extended.

            NTSB spokesperson Steven Chealander said the pilots attempted to raise the landing gears and flaps seconds before the crash.

            Several witnesses on the ground reported that the plane's engines sounded like they were going at full power, like in a takeoff.

            The plane was coming in for a landing in light snow and fog late Thursday and crashed about eight kilometres short of Buffalo-Niagara International Airport.

            A Canadian has been identified as one of the 50 victims of the crash.

            Don McDonald, from Fort Erie, Ont., was one of 49 people on the Continental Connection Flight 3407 who was killed.

            One person inside the home that was hit by the plane also died, raising the death toll to 50.

            McDonald worked as a technical manager for Pharmetics, Inc., a Canadian pharmaceutical firm with offices in Fort Erie.

            "He leaves behind a wife and a young daughter," CTV Toronto's Paul Bliss reported Friday.

            The Canadian-made Q400 Bombardier, a 74-seater aircraft, went down around 10:20 p.m. Thursday.

            The plane was operated by Colgan Air, a Manassas, Va.-based affiliate of Continental Airlines. Initial reports said 48 people were on board the plane and one was killed on the ground.

            However, Colgan Air now says one off-duty pilot was also on board the aircraft, bringing the death toll up to 50.

            "This is easily the saddest day in the history of our airline," Philip Trenary, CEO of Colgan Air said Friday.

            At an afternoon press conference, N.Y. Gov. David Paterson said he met with the families of the victims on Friday.

            "I saw a woman whose fiance was killed in the plane crash -- she has three little daughters," Paterson said.

            Survivor describes plane hitting her home

            Karen Wielinski told Buffalo radio station WBEN-AM that she was watching television when she heard a loud noise and in the next instant the ceiling was on top of her.

            "I heard a noise, planes do go over our house, but this one just sounded really different, louder, and I thought to myself, 'you know, if that's a plane, its going to hit something,' and the next thing I knew, the ceiling was on me," she said Friday.

            She managed to crawl towards a light and escape as fire circled around her. Her 22-year-old daughter, Jill, was at the opposite side of the house and escaped as well.

            Unfortunately, her 61-year-old husband, Doug Wielinski, was in the middle of the house and has not been found.

            Both women were taken to hospital with minor injuries.

            Black boxes found

            Investigators recovered the two black boxes from the plane -- the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder Friday morning.

            NTSB spokesman Keith Holloway said that the boxes were sent back to Washington for examination.

            Mark Clitsome, director of the air investigation branch of the Transportation Safety Board of Canada, told CTV Newsnet Friday that TSB officials will be involved with the investigation because the plane and its engine were manufactured in Canada.

            Clitsome said a team from Bombardier Aerospace and a team from Pratt & Whitney Canada, the engines' manufacturer, will also head to Buffalo today.

            Additionally, Transport Canada has sent a minister's observer to go down, Clitsome said.

            Early details on crash

            Flight 3407 departed from Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey and was preparing to land at Buffalo Niagara International Airport.

            Prior to the crash, the pilot was communicating in a routine way with the controller, who told her to fly at 2,300 feet.

            A minute later, the controller tried to contact the plane again but there was no response. The controller tried again to contact the pilot but, after receiving no response, he told an unidentified listener to contact authorities, according to recordings captured by LiveATC.net.

            "You need to find if anything is on the ground," the controller said. "All I can tell you is the aircraft is over the marker (landing beacon), and we're not talking to them now."

            Eyewitness Tony Tatro was driving home from the gym when he saw the plane in the sky.

            "It was nose-down and it was tilted slightly to the left," Tatro told CTV's Canada AM on Friday

            Bob Dworak, who lives close to the crash site, said the whole sky was lit up in orange.

            "All the sudden, there was a big bang, and the house shook," Dworak said.

            Another eyewitness said the plane was "sputtering" moments before the crash.

            "It was real loud," the eyewitness said. "The next thing you know we heard it crash so we looked out the window and there was bright lights so we decided to run down here."

            FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said there is "no indication of any security related event" behind the incident.

            According to reports, the aircraft was flying in light snow, fog and 27 km/h winds. Experts suggest that icing or a mechanical failure may have caused the crash.

            This is the first fatal crash of a commercial airliner in the United States since Aug. 27, 2006, when 49 people were killed after a Comair jetliner took off from a Lexington, Ky., runway that was too short.

            Also Friday, U.S. President Barack Obama said "our hearts go out to the families and friends who lost loved ones."
            So before everyone gets all excited about bad maintenance, wait and see what the investigation shows.

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            • #7
              This is what the plane would have looked like but not the actual plane.

              The latest news is that Icing may have had a factor and that the plane has less than 1500 hours in the air total and it is a new plane (under 1 year old) with no safety issues.
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              You Live and You Learn -- Hopefully!

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              • #8
                Here is a similar intact Continental plane, well its the same model but not the actual plane either.

                This type of plane is a turbo prop plane which is considered to be very safe.
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                • #9
                  (pacman @ Feb. 13 2009,10:30) He's an Irishman, let's hope he's made of sterner stuff than the ones we see around here...
                  Hey - Seamus isn't all bad!
                  No honey, no money!!

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