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    NOVEMBER 16, 2009, 12:08 P.M. ET Supreme Court Denies Redskins Mascot Challenge

    By KRISTINA PETERSON
    WASHINGTON -- The Washington Redskins ended their four-game losing streak Sunday. On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court handed the professional football team another victory, declining to hear a petition alleging its use of the "Redskins" mascot is racially disparaging.

    Suzan Harjo v. Pro-Football Inc., a case that began in 1992, centered on whether a dispute over a potentially offensive trademark can be dismissed if the challenge was not filed promptly. Though the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board ruled in 1999 that the name was disparaging and should be changed, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia and U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. later decided that the challengers had waited too long to file their petition. The Redskins first registered the mascot with the Patent and Trademark Office in 1967.

    The Redskins acquired their controversial name in 1933, before they arrived in Washington.

    Originally the "Boston Braves," then-owner George Preston Marshall renamed the Boston Redskins in honor of their head coach, William "Lone Star" Dietz, himself a Native American, according to team lawyers in a brief for the high court.

    When the team moved to Washington in 1937, the name was tweaked to reflect its new hometown.

    Groups of law and psychology professors have filed amicus briefs in the case, urging the court to prohibit dismissing trademark disputes based on timeliness questions if the name does public damage.

    In this case, use of the "Redskins" epithet propagates a negative stereotype of Native Americans, the psychology professors argued.

    In a brief filed during the current season, the professors also assert that the damage incurred by the mascot is greater given the popularity of professional football and of the Redskins themselves.

    "For example, highlights from Redskins games are played on [Walt Disney Co.'s] ESPN and countless stories are written about the team," write the professors.

    The Supreme Court denied the case Monday without comment.

  • #2
    Thank god. I'm so sick of this stupid-ass politically correct bull-shit.

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    • #3
      (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 16 2009,17:13) Thank god. I'm so sick of this stupid-ass politically correct bull-shit.
      Why do you object to this "politically correct bull-shit" Are you a native american and if you were wuldn't you object? How about we change the names of some other teams. Lets call the Saints the Coons or the black boys. San Francisco has a major chinese populaion lets call the the Yellowskins.

      sorry but this is another defeat for anti racism




       
      It's good to King........no matter what the pay

      Courage is being scared to death__and saddling up anyway

      Billy Jaffe, Radio Voice of the Thrashers:
      ”I have absolutely No problem with Ohio State. It has a beautiful campus, and for a Junior College it has really great Academics.”


      "Gentlemen and ladies, 'Those Who Stay Will Be Champions' is for you too. It's for every Michigan fan that's out there. When the going gets tough, you don't cut and run. It's not the Michigan way. If I heard it once from the old man, I heard it a thousand times -- when the going gets tough you find out who your real friends are, and that's why we must stay. Because there will be championships, and this staff and these kids will bring those championships here."

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      • #4
        I agree. If we are going to allow one racial slur to be used, (and Marshall was one of the biggest racists ever associated with the NFL and hopefully is burning in hell now, if it exists), we should change to many more such names. Detroit to the Detroit Niggers, and we could also have the San Francisco Faggots, and the New York Chinks and New York Hebes. How about the Arizona Wetbacks too? Or perhaps the Arizona Taco Benders.
        “When a nation's young men are conservative, its funeral bell is already rung.”
        ― Henry Ward Beecher


        "Inflexibility is the worst human failing. You can learn to check impetuosity, overcome fear with confidence and laziness with discipline. But for rigidity of mind, there is no antidote. It carries the seeds of its own destruction." ~ Anton Myrer

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        • #5
          Ok, fine. But we have to change the name of the Fightin' Irish too, because it implies that all Irish are drunk midgets who like to fight.

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          • #6
            (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 16 2009,22:44) Ok, fine. But we have to change the name of the Fightin' Irish too, because it implies that all Irish are drunk midgets who like to fight.
            No problem with me............I'd vote for slithering scum myself




            It's good to King........no matter what the pay

            Courage is being scared to death__and saddling up anyway

            Billy Jaffe, Radio Voice of the Thrashers:
            ”I have absolutely No problem with Ohio State. It has a beautiful campus, and for a Junior College it has really great Academics.”


            "Gentlemen and ladies, 'Those Who Stay Will Be Champions' is for you too. It's for every Michigan fan that's out there. When the going gets tough, you don't cut and run. It's not the Michigan way. If I heard it once from the old man, I heard it a thousand times -- when the going gets tough you find out who your real friends are, and that's why we must stay. Because there will be championships, and this staff and these kids will bring those championships here."

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            • #7
              (smuttleydfs @ Nov. 17 2009,05:09)
              (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 16 2009,17:13) Thank god. I'm so sick of this stupid-ass politically correct bull-shit.
              Why do you object to this "politically correct bull-shit" Are you a native american and if you were wuldn't you object?  
              I am not a native American. If I was, I would not object. Of course now you'll tell me that I'd think differently if I was a native american, thus invalidating your question to begin with... but whatever.

              I actually think the Detroit Niggers would be a hilarious name. But that's just me.

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              • #8
                (smuttleydfs @ Nov. 17 2009,09:47)
                (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 16 2009,22:44) Ok, fine. But we have to change the name of the Fightin' Irish too, because it implies that all Irish are drunk midgets who like to fight.
                No problem with me............I'd vote for slithering scum myself    




                 
                How about the Fightin' Micks and Gizmos?

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                • #9
                  (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 16 2009,22:49)
                  (smuttleydfs @ Nov. 17 2009,09:47)
                  (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 16 2009,22:44) Ok, fine. But we have to change the name of the Fightin' Irish too, because it implies that all Irish are drunk midgets who like to fight.
                  No problem with me............I'd vote for slithering scum myself    




                   
                  How about the Fightin' Micks and Gizmos?  
                  Once again blondie your republican inner racist surfaces. You will take note I deliberately avoided any reference to irish in my tongue in cheek nickame for ND wheras you couldn't help yourself. And as nasty as Lefty's use of the N word was it was once again tongue n cheek and I think yours was much more true to your real feelings and attitude.

                  Sad but typical of the right




                  It's good to King........no matter what the pay

                  Courage is being scared to death__and saddling up anyway

                  Billy Jaffe, Radio Voice of the Thrashers:
                  ”I have absolutely No problem with Ohio State. It has a beautiful campus, and for a Junior College it has really great Academics.”


                  "Gentlemen and ladies, 'Those Who Stay Will Be Champions' is for you too. It's for every Michigan fan that's out there. When the going gets tough, you don't cut and run. It's not the Michigan way. If I heard it once from the old man, I heard it a thousand times -- when the going gets tough you find out who your real friends are, and that's why we must stay. Because there will be championships, and this staff and these kids will bring those championships here."

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                  • #10
                    Somehow, I just knew this thread would get controversial.

                    I don't really care too much either way.

                    One difference between Notre Dame and the Skins is that Irish Americans like and identify with the team and nickname. Lots of Subway Alumni.

                    However, Indians don't like the Redskin name. But the bigwigs on the reservation I'm sure are more concerned with duty free smokes and casino gambling.

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                    • #11
                      (smuttleydfs @ Nov. 17 2009,10:07)  
                      How about the Fightin' Micks and Gizmos?  [/quote]
                      Once again blondie your republican inner racist surfaces. You will take note I deliberately avoided any reference to irish in my tongue in cheek nickame for ND wheras you couldn't help yourself. And as nasty as Lefty's use of the N word was it was once again tongue n cheek and I think yours was much more true to your real feelings and attitude.

                      Sad but typical of the right




                       [/quote]
                      So it's ok for someone else (Lefty) to suggest a team called the Detroit Niggers, but when I say it, it's racist? I think it's hilarious in a Dave Chapelle, subversive type of way, exactly as Lefty meant it. You're such a fucking dipshit, Smuttley.

                      Also, implying I've ever voted Republican. That's just fucking stupid. When have I EVER professed to be a Republican on this site? Because I've "defended" Fox News (and even that's only partially true... I think all the news orgs are just as biased, albeit in other ways, as Fox News). And only republicans are ever allowed to be racist? You are aware of Robert Byrd, right? He was in the fucking KKK... for Christ's sake, why do you have to make every goddamn issue political? Just shut the fuck up, man. Or if you won't shut up, then just fucking ease up on the butthurt. I swear to Christ ever issue on this board makes you RAAAAAGE.

                      What was wrong with my Fightin' Mick and Gizmo name? I think it'd be an excellent homage to two of my favorite board members.

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                      • #12
                        (PigDogg @ Nov. 17 2009,10:57) One difference between Notre Dame and the Skins is that Irish Americans like and identify with the team and nickname.  
                        And this is the problem. It's either all ok or nothing is ok. You can't have it both ways. If people are going to cry foul and call it xenophobia/ethnocentrism/racism/etc, then it's not fair to keep a team called the "Fightin' Irish" but not called the "Redskins."

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                        • #13
                          Wouldn't the equivalent to Fightin' Irish be the Fightin' Native Americans? Perhaps that would be a good choice the the DC franchise. I don't see how anything associated with Notre Dame is even close to racist. Their symbol is a leprechaun, which is an accepted symbol of Ireland.

                          I have an improved nickname for Atlanta too. They could be the Jawguh Crackers.
                          “When a nation's young men are conservative, its funeral bell is already rung.”
                          ― Henry Ward Beecher


                          "Inflexibility is the worst human failing. You can learn to check impetuosity, overcome fear with confidence and laziness with discipline. But for rigidity of mind, there is no antidote. It carries the seeds of its own destruction." ~ Anton Myrer

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                          • #14
                            (Lefty @ Nov. 17 2009,15:04) Wouldn't the equivalent to Fightin' Irish be the Fightin' Native Americans? Perhaps that would be a good choice the the DC franchise. I don't see how anything associated with Notre Dame is even close to racist. Their symbol is a leprechaun, which is an accepted symbol of Ireland.  

                            I have an improved nickname for Atlanta too. They could be the Jawguh Crackers.  
                            I actually think a team called The Washington Natives would be a more respectful term. I wouldn't mind a name change to something like that. I guess I just hate it when teams are forced to change their names/mascots by politically correct whackos.

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                            • #15
                              (blonde_havoc @ Nov. 17 2009,00:33)
                              (smuttleydfs @ Nov. 17 2009,10:07)  
                              How about the Fightin' Micks and Gizmos?  
                              Once again blondie your republican inner racist surfaces. You will take note I deliberately avoided any reference to irish in my tongue in cheek nickame for ND wheras you couldn't help yourself. And as nasty as Lefty's use of the N word was it was once again tongue n cheek and I think yours was much more true to your real feelings and attitude.

                              Sad but typical of the right




                               [/quote]
                              So it's ok for someone else (Lefty) to suggest a team called the Detroit Niggers, but when I say it, it's racist? I think it's hilarious in a Dave Chapelle, subversive type of way, exactly as Lefty meant it. You're such a fucking dipshit, Smuttley.

                              Also, implying I've ever voted Republican.    That's just fucking stupid. When have I EVER professed to be a Republican on this site? Because I've "defended" Fox News (and even that's only partially true... I think all the news orgs are just as biased, albeit in other ways, as Fox News). And only republicans are ever allowed to be racist? You are aware of Robert Byrd, right? He was in the fucking KKK... for Christ's sake, why do you have to make every goddamn issue political? Just shut the fuck up, man. Or if you won't shut up, then just fucking ease up on the butthurt. I swear to Christ ever issue on this board makes you RAAAAAGE.

                              What was wrong with my Fightin' Mick and Gizmo name? I think it'd be an excellent homage to two of my favorite board members.  [/quote]
                              Every time you post in a political thread peroxide blondie your right wing biases surface even if you don't recognize it others do

                              Re-read the post you quoted I specifically said this about lefty's comments

                              "And as nasty as Lefty's use of the N word was it was once again tongue n cheek and I think yours was much more true to your real feelings and attitude."


                              The only "rage" I ever show is when myopic righ wingers like you try to shove things down other BMs throats. Your initial comments were racist like it or not peroxide boy and if you can't stand it when I slam you for being so click that magic ignore button or better yet just kiss my ass




                              It's good to King........no matter what the pay

                              Courage is being scared to death__and saddling up anyway

                              Billy Jaffe, Radio Voice of the Thrashers:
                              ”I have absolutely No problem with Ohio State. It has a beautiful campus, and for a Junior College it has really great Academics.”


                              "Gentlemen and ladies, 'Those Who Stay Will Be Champions' is for you too. It's for every Michigan fan that's out there. When the going gets tough, you don't cut and run. It's not the Michigan way. If I heard it once from the old man, I heard it a thousand times -- when the going gets tough you find out who your real friends are, and that's why we must stay. Because there will be championships, and this staff and these kids will bring those championships here."

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