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[bigmick22]

(agoodfella @ Oct. 23 2008,07:55) To view sexuality in a harsh black and white dichotomy is way, way to rigid.

There are degrees of sexuality -- i.e. a GG can, on one extreme be very "butch" very "masculine" and by the same token, a guy can be very "girlish". There are shades of grey. If by gunpoint, I had to choose to fuck a GG who was hairy, muscular and more butch than an NFL linebacker or a very "beautiful" LB who had been on hormone therapy, breast augmentation -- the whole nine yards, and fully clothed would fool 99.99% of the general population -- and I chose the LB, does that make me "gay"?

And if it does, who cares?

try a forum search for "gay continuum"

by the way, my first LB experience was absolutely great and I had no negative feelings afterwards (shame, regret etc) ... in fact, I have a hard time understanding why you would feel so

(and I was raised Catholic - so much for the hacks who like to trot out the old Catholic line at every opportunity)

[blonde_havoc]

(bigmick22 @ Oct. 24 2008,05:05) (and I was raised Catholic - so much for the hacks who like to trot out the old Catholic line at every opportunity)

I'm not Catholic, but most of my best friends are. The Catholic guilt thing is a real complex, man. I've witnessed it first hand time and time again. Be lucky it doesn't affect you!

I had the luck to be raised not particularly religiously. I'm so glad I got to escape that part.

[Guest]

It was a strange yet wonderful experience...

I will post a full report a bit later. I still get a hard on thinking about it... No regrets. Period.

I'm definitely hooked.

[stonefre]

Another win for the dark side.

[jimslim]

Lets hope a ladyboy felt his presence master Stonefre

[bigmick22]

(blonde_havoc @ Oct. 24 2008,00:44)

(bigmick22 @ Oct. 24 2008,05:05) (and I was raised Catholic - so much for the hacks who like to trot out the old Catholic line at every opportunity)

I'm not Catholic, but most of my best friends are. The Catholic guilt thing is a real complex, man. I've witnessed it first hand time and time again. Be lucky it doesn't affect you!

I had the luck to be raised not particularly religiously. I'm so glad I got to escape that part.

I'll be honest with you and admit that I have never witnessed it.
Most of the people I know are Catholic.

We're not that different from normal people you know

[robbo]

in reference to the original question............ find that ladyboy just get on all fours and take it! get the deed done youll soon find out if u like it or not..............what you have to lose? except your viginity heheh

[Cockeyed]

Hi All,

I've been lurking for a couple of months but now only 4 weeks to go and I thought it was time I said a BIG thanks to all of you for all the info and great TRs.

I've a first-timer and have 4 days in Bangkok from November 23rd and then 4 days in Pattaya.  A year ago I couldn't imagine that I would be setting off for Thailand and looking forward to sharing a bed with whores with dicks. But the more pictures I see of these lovely LBs, and the more I read about the great times you all have with them €“ well, there's no choice.

So, some time around November 23/24 I will be nervously entering the door of Guess Bar or Cascades looking for some lovely feminine creature to show me my first good time on the dark side.

I might even be lucky enough €“ there or in Pattaya a few days later €“ to meet some of the BMs whose reports I've become addicted to. Please let me know if any of you are around, or if there are any events on. Reacting to lots of recommendations, I'm booked into the DIG & LK Renaissance.

I hope to have a mix of GGs and LBs €“ variety being the spice of life. I'm armed with new camera and laptop to post reports. One thing I haven't seen much comment on the boards is how the girls react to camcorder. Anyone managed that?

I'm in the  category of 'ageing exterior but youthful inside'. Fortified by a cocktail of cialis, red bull, and lust, I'm hoping to last the pace.

One other question I haven't managed to find an answer to in searches: to find out what they are prepared to do for me, will I need some descriptions in Thai €“ and are these published anywhere?

It's a great forum. Looking forward to contributing ....

[Stogie]

Welcome on board. Have a great trip and please post and let us know how it all goes for your first time.

Usually first impressions are a bit more accurate (and interesting) than the jaded rantings of hasbeens like, well... me!

Cheers... have a great time and see you in a few weeks...

Stogie

[Stogie]

If you want to take video and it's deal breaker then tell them before you take them.

They will assume that you either want to profit from it in some way so you may meet either resistance or a new asking price.

If the video doesn't bother you too much then you can raise the subject up once inside your room but don't be too disappointed if you don't get the action or response you are looking for.

Many Thais go to pieces in front of a video camera... but some just love the attention!

As for what they will do for you...

If it's something out of the ordinary you may want to discuss it but once in your room a bit of miming should get your... um, point across!

It's worth trying to remember that even though these girls have had loads of great sex and you've been pretty much barren for the last 60 years that they are friendly and fun people to be around, especially in The Guess Bar and also in Pattaya...

If you go into Guess Bar with a forum member then you'll feel a lot more at ease...

[pacman]

Welcome Cockeyed.

Here are some personal observations to add to Stogie's sage advice -

your age will be no barrier to enjoying the best LOS has to offer. What you may find however are higher prices asked for by the girls if they pick up you are new to the scene, they are quick to cotton on, & some will also demand extra from those more "youthfully-challenged", like a senior's penalty.

I know of some who won't go with old guys full stop, but business is not so wonderful that they can be too choosy.

This ties in with your question of what they are prepared to do for you.

What they would hope to do is perform oral sex & get you to finish asap. That saves the problem for them of anal sex, & asking them in the bar if they like or will do, is no guarantee that they will deliver in the room.

However if you want to switch roles, there is no need anywhere to know the Thai for: "you fuck me".

They all understand that & if they can't/won't they will know someone in the bar who will.

Getting that question sorted out will be the least of your problems, determining a fair price may prove harder.

I am thinking the video camera will prove problematic. They are all very savvy how many of their pics finish up on the net & I struck a real reluctance for any photos to be taken. Revealing pics that is.

The idea that you take a film of them performing is just not going to fly without some serious baht changing hands.

If you are brave you could have it running without them knowing but good luck if they discover it. Most would get quite hostile & you will likely get threats that you really don't need.

Ask them by all means but be prepared to be refused & don't let it spoil your holiday.

Last point, it will be the pretty young things in the bar who will take your eye, it is the ones who have been there & done that, who will have the experience to make your first encounter something special.

[kahuna]

Damn...is this a first? A new member who doesn't claim to be straight...

Welcome Cockeyed...There are many of us here who are young inside and
aged out...Trust me, you'll have a great time...

Post in the Calendar Forum closer to your trip...I'm sure there well be some
of us around to help you with your introduction to ladyboys...

Cheers,

Kahuna

[robbo]

lucky bastard.......1st timer n all..............have a good one.found my 2nd every trip was the best.but 1st is great..........have fun.

[jimslim]

Welcome to the forum Cockeyed , Im sure you are excited , and I'm also sure you will have a great time

[Guest]

welcome cockeyed as robbo said first time can be a bit of a blur, but second trip you really have fun as you are a bit more savvy to the whole experience. most of all try to take it all in,and enjoy when you first walk into guess, the adrenalin and excitement of your first time is almost of the scale.enjoy my friend,enjoy