Chili Bar Bangkok

[flamingofarmer]

Then who's the one who killed her roommate with a knife?

You may be thinking of Jenny from C&D in Phuket. Killed roommate over money he wouldn't lend for drugs . He was saving it to go home . I met Jenny; very fucked up person .

[Rockheart]

As Thailand becomes more advanced and develops, prices will go up. The more infrastructure and bureaucracy means higher prices.
People tend to get paid more and there is more demand in the economy. Real estate and rents will always increase in good conditions.
Thailand being an underdeveloped nation can easily slide back compared to other first world countries.

Take for example the food carts around Bangkok. Over time they are slowly reducing the number of these carts around town.
As they do this they are probably slowly raising health standards which costs everyone more.
In Canada or the USA you cannot just go set up a quick food stand. You need to buy an expensive food truck or hot dog cart and pay huge license fees to the city.

Political, international or other stresses on the economy can easily affect Thailand. Tourism being so big there this crisis may cause prices to drop.
Companies and government programs that required more people and money will not recover from this and there will be a climb back.

Over the years the political unrest in Thailand has been the biggest thing keeping the economy and prices down.
The current government in Thailand has done fairly well not to tank the economy, as has happened after most coups.
Since the financial crisis in the 1990's when Thailand went bankrupt, it has been dirt cheap to go there. However since the 90's prices have steadily gone up.
Still there has been successive coups and bad rice years etc. The fact their economy is so fixed on a few big industries, they cannot take a hit if one fails.

It seems to me that P4P will not be going away in Thailand. Most asian countries seem to have some understanding that P4P is a part of life and they allow it and sometimes profit from it. Even Singapore which is highly developed allows Orchard towers which is a lamer version of Nana Plaza. They also do not seem to harass street workers or clients.

In Canada prostitution is basically legal now and there is legal cannabis. Thailand is going to lose tourists if people can find similar closer places that have P4P and cannabis.
It used to be that no one would bother you for cannabis in Thailand in the old days, but since the USA started it's war on drugs it has been illegal in Thailand, at least for visitors.

Pattaya is basically run by P4P. I am not sure who will stay in all the condos and hotels in Pattaya if they stopped the sex trade, there would be abandoned buildings everywhere. They keep wanting to turn Pattaya into a family destination....
It is big business for Thailand to have older men retiring and visiting there. Thailand always talks about attracting families but Families in North America are not going to travel to Thailand when they can just go to Mexico or Caribbean or Florida. The one thing Thailand has over these countries is that is it much safer.
If you take the raw grittiness out of Thailand, I don't think it will be that attractive to tourists.
If Myanmar opened fully for tourism they could really hurt Thailand. They have more temples and artifacts, plus more nice beaches and undiscovered territories. They probably have more ladyboys too...the same conditions exist.

[P&G]

We have now countries over 300 deaths per million inhabitant in Europe. The same is likely to happen in the USA that are reaching 100 DPM.
I still wonder why stats are so low in Thailand and Vietnam. One reason might be the hot weather. Another one might be that the populations of developping countries have less older people, so less deaths. Then administration don't want to count cases and figures are underestimated. A friend of mine living in Vietnam told me that the government deliberately issued fake stats. But given the panic generated by Directive 16, the administration might have access to true stats.

On the other hand, I agree with the opinion that bars were already in a poor situation before the covid19 crisis. Prices increased every year. We can't know whether it came from real estate prices increases, an increase in the standard of living of the Thai population, or increases in the market. It seems also that more and more farangs visited Thailand to meet ladyboys while less ladyboys worked in bars. As ladyboys ask for higher prices for just a ST, the market was about to reach the limit at which farangs don't want to pay so high prices. The system was starting collapsing slowly and the Covid crisis might trigger a more rapid collapse. Since the Thai population is changing (in a couple of words : less young people in a family and less young people in the population), ladyboys prefer to go too the university and study if they can (they are no longer considered as lost children but are also granted the right to get a high level education and attempt to find a career job). in some sense the bar system might have to pay for its abusive practices.
The bar system also had to face a ew kind of competition escort agencies and apps like Smooci, and a freelancers market sustained by new smartphone apps such as Thaifriendly, Line and Wechat.

Another factor that no one wants to mention may be that Thailand or the Thai government wants to turn the page of p4p. They have reached a sufficient level of economic development to push businessmen to replace p4p bars by other kind of businesses and let mongers find new destinations in the world.

[Rockheart]

I'm not scared of it, you have to live and I would rather catch it when i am younger.
I am willing to bet up to 100 times more people have had it than they think or say.
They refuse to fully admit it is mainly only dangerous to those with existing risk factors.

Bangkok is the hottest city on earth on average, the virus has less chance there than anywhere.
I have seen one ladyboy that had the flu but it turned out she had HIV.
I have caught the flu on the way to Thailand a few times and no one in Thailand caught it from me.
They don't get flu shots that I have every heard of.

Too many Thais take antibiotics and paracetamol like vitamins, however I am sure this does not really help them.
They just look at me funny when i tell them they are probably building resistance to antibiotics that may hurt them in future.

Still according to stats Thailand appears to be middle of the pack on influenza most likely because of less vaccination.
According to this chart all the first world countries have the best rates but probably due to higher incidence of vaccination.
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/...ia/by-country/

If the bars were making money before they should reopen. Like I say the costs are very low when they are not open and if the Nana company is smart they will work with tenants.
Check in bar and Why not bar have lower rents and I think they can weather the event. It is even possible if you go to Why Not bar and knock on the door, they might still be there.
I think June at Check In has done very well for herself over the years and i used to hang out at her alco cart late at night before she actually opened check in bar.
Pretty hard to go back to the carts since there is so few allowed anymore. Nightlife in Bangkok was slowly dying anyway, it is much harder to find anything to do after the main bars close now. It used to be you could find places to drink and party all night long. Those days are gone already.
Those off Nana locations often are lucky to find any tenants so they don't want to lose them over this.

I have heard Chili bar has been closing for years now and it always seems to stay open.
The big fat mamasan had a heart attack and died in an elevator a few years ago....

[Rattmaster]

From what I read, they are financially in a mess, too many expenses and not enough money. Sad.
I just posted the other day that Kings Corner 2 is possibly changing, and now Chili bar. What is going on?

It will be interesting to see what happens when things open up again. Even if businesses open, I doesn't mean people will be going out. I personally will still be very cautious, maybe until the end of the year going into next year. But man, things will be brutal for the bar scene. We'll see.

The death rate from Covid-19 definitely is not as high as it seems. It's mainly just that it's so contagious, and many people have it. So the death numbers are inflated. But compared to other diseases. It's not actually THAT bad. I mean it's not a good thing, but there are more deadly things out there. Regardless, it's not something you want to mess with.

[Rockheart]

The only thing that would force them to close would be having to continue with the rent and other bills.
They don't need to buy any liquor or other supplies. They may have to pay management salaries but I think the real bosses are in charge of many bars.
I assume they would lay off the mama sans since most of them make a large portion of their money from tips and direct customer interactions.

The right thing to do would be for Nana Plaza not to charge rent to the bars in there for a couple months.
Considering Nana has not been full for years, they probably need to do something to support the bars that are there.
Things were already going downhill when they took over Big Dogs and forbid outside food, it just isn't the same place anymore.

Other interested parties also do not want to see many bars close.
Unfortunately even when restrictions are lifted, many people will not be able to even leave their own country.
Plus nobody is going to go to Thailand if they have to self quarantine for 14 days, who would even obey that?
This would just allow "concerned" officials to unfairly ask for everyone's papers to issue "fines".

Soon we will discover the death rate of Covid-19 is not anywhere near what "experts" think it is.
Facts are slowly pointing in this direction.

[Rattmaster]

Rumor has it (from other ladyboy forums) that Chili bar might be closing down for good.
Hope it's not true, but apparent this lockdown is really hurting the bar scene to the point that some bars may not even be able to reopen.

[Rattmaster]

I watched that the other day, the uploader is putting up quality work. A true ladyboy lover. He also has his own ladyboy database website. He has pretty good information on the models, like which bars they used to work at and stuff.

http://lbnh.x.fc2.com

[rxpharm]

Here is a recently uploaded video about the Chili Bar. The poster is a Japanese ladyboy fan who collects videos, photos and information about p4p Thai ladyboys. This is a compilation video so some of the footage is poor quality and they are all done with a mobile. As this is a compilation there is no way to know when these videos were recorded.

[P&G]

Then who's the one who killed her roommate with a knife?

That was Jenny at Cocktails & Dreams in Phuket.

We talked about her with Flamingofarmer in this thread.

She was loaded with yaba.

[George Pill]

Then who's the one who killed her roommate with a knife?

[Rockheart]

I never heard of Nan going to jail...
However if they are very skinny they are probably on ice.

[George Pill]

Did also visit Chaos 6 further down Soi 4 but nothing interesting. Only 4 kats. You might take a walk down oast the Asoke intersection to soi Cowboy and Why Not Bar (google map these names). Just walk around and look for your kind of ladyboy. Oh yeah. Be aware they're all clever con artists. Act like you're a tough customer and don't tolerate scams or foolishness. Right now I'm having fun banging some average but young 20 something kats who hang out in front of the Novotel Hotel on Soi 4. They just stand outside the hotel waiting for you. Only B1000. Guess you might say there in training. I like them as they let me shoot their pics. Average kids. Not pretty. Try cross the Sukhumvit street and walk around Sois 5 and 7. Remember even numbered sois are south of Sukhumvit. Odd numbereds are north. So walk around and explore. There's a famous bar called Thermae right next to Sofitel hotel. Go downstairs and see the large basement full of freelance girls. Few are pretty and most are ugliest. Makes me laugh they want B3k up. Can't even speak English correctly. Don't understand what you're saying
lots of white lonely men who can't seem to be interested in the pretty ones. No kzts here. Might be some outside on the sidewalk after midnight. Gotta learn to sleep all day and walk all night. There's a katoey bar in soi Cowboy called Cockatoo. Expensive and snooty putas. So explore and find what your looking for. Bangkok is more expensive than Pattaya. I spend most of my vacation time in there. Right now tourism numbers and hotel occupancy is bad with a 40% drop. Last year was bad and even worse this year. But who cares. Means less competition.

[George Pill]

Wasn't she just arrested last year for stabbing her ladyboy roommate to death. Ice head. Do yourself a favor and don't ask for referrals. Just walk around to Nana Entertainment Plaza in Bangkok on Soi 4. Can't ever miss it. Lots of ladyboy bars there as I've seen for the last days. Chili's there on the 2nd floor along with 4 other katoey bars. I went into DC10 and what gorgeous Kats. I thought it was a mix of boys and girls. No, it's ladyboys and some are post ops. Totally had me fooled until I noticed their feet are too big. Barfine here is B900 as is Obsessions. The Japanese are willing to pay these prices. The white fatties just just drink and lecher at the beauties. Chili's and Mercury bars are B700. Shasha just returned to mercy 3 days ago from DC10. told me they are all Katoeys in DC10. Go see how gorgeous they are. Also scope the girlie strip bars. At the bottom floor is Twister Bar. Got about 15 girls dancing in bikinis, but what is surprising is 3 of them where totally nude! Back at Soi Cowboy they got fat ugly broads who sneer at you and turn around when you look. T we mister nudes are gorgeous dream girls with teen bodies. Sit at the soapy hot tub counter. Your dreams will come true. Two delicious b as best were only 5 feet from my eyes and loved you to look. Just like the white tourist couple having fun staring at their lovely brown bods. What a great place LOS is. Why go only for ladyboys. Go both ways or go away. Really you want skinnies? There were 2 tall gorgeous models T DC10 who kept telling me they were real girls and pulled aside their crotch h bands. I wanted to see closer but they said they wanted B100 for photos. I took 6 shots and gave them B100. They got mad and said B200. I told them go fuck themselves. Lots of angry yelling but I laughed. Did not barfine them. B900 us way too much. Just buy a drink and watch the dancers. What was interesting this white guy was fingering a cute kat's bare crotch and she was spreading her legs like a frog. Both of them were enjoying it. You can do this, too. Just buy them a drink and ask to touch them. Nobody's ashamed and nobody,'s looking. Wow.

[lessons1990]

Thank you Crag!